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Aviation Photos => Museums => Topic started by: rander on October 20, 2008, 07:49:10 PM

Title: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on October 20, 2008, 07:49:10 PM
The Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum, located 1/2 mile west of the MCAS Miramar on Miramar Road, is the only Museum dedicated soley to USMC Aviation.  see also
www.flyingleathernecks.org. I"LL keep adding more pics so keep checking back.

I'll have to go back over there and get some pics that I can crop smaller.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: aero-engineer on October 20, 2008, 09:12:10 PM
I hate to see them repaint that AV-8C from the NASA test colors.

Oh well.

Kevin
aero-engineer
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: phantomphan1974 on October 21, 2008, 06:02:28 AM
Quote from: aero-engineer on October 20, 2008, 09:12:10 PM
I hate to see them repaint that AV-8C from the NASA test colors.

Oh well.

Kevin
aero-engineer
Where was that info?
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on October 21, 2008, 06:40:11 PM
I'll ask about the AV-8C hen I go over there either Saturday or Sunday this weekend
Here is an A-4M that is "Tail-End-Charlie" Of all the A-4's built. BUNO 160264
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on October 25, 2008, 04:54:44 PM
Quote from: aero-engineer on October 20, 2008, 09:12:10 PM
I hate to see them repaint that AV-8C from the NASA test colors.

Oh well.

Kevin
aero-engineer

Kevin: I went to the Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum today and I spoke with my contact there, He stated the AV-8B Harrier will stay in NASA Paint until next April or May, when it will be brought in for corrosion control and be repainted in Marine Squadron colors. They do not know which suadron will be on the Harrier. Here are a few pics of the aircraft in NASA livery.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on October 25, 2008, 05:16:45 PM
The Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum has 4 A-4 series aircraft. see also www.flyingleathernecks.org
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: phantomphan1974 on October 25, 2008, 07:17:53 PM
Nice shots.  Have to post some of mine eventually.  NASA Harrier is nice.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on October 26, 2008, 11:02:05 AM
The Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum has this CH-46 Seaknight Helicopter. I spent some time looking over this aircraft, I noticed that the right side pilot has armor plating to protect him from small arms fire. The left side pilot has no such armor.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on October 26, 2008, 11:16:40 AM
The Museum has these two helicopters a AH-1J Sea Cobra and a CH-53A Sea Stallion.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on October 26, 2008, 11:37:52 AM
The Museum has these 3 classic jet aircraft on display. They also have a RF-8G Photo aircraft that is in the hanger for corrosion control.

F-8E Crusader
F-9F-8P Cougar Photo Aircraft
FJ-3 Fury
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: Midnight Mover on October 28, 2008, 08:28:46 PM
Very cool ;)
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: phantomphan1974 on November 05, 2008, 09:49:09 AM
Mine from a couple years ago.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: phantomphan1974 on November 05, 2008, 09:50:25 AM
Few More
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on November 05, 2008, 05:59:28 PM
Great pics Damon!!!! ;D <rob> <pump> Just an update! The B-25J Mitchell Bomber in Post 11. Ts scheduled in to the hanger for Corrosion Control and new Paint. Also the Bell 214S Captured Iraqi Helo is currently in for corrosion control and paint.  Here are 3 more of the pics I took a couple weeks ago
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: g0_command0 on April 27, 2009, 10:30:51 PM
Some pics i took last friday!

all pics are copy right alfonse vu 2009!

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ok now im lazy..ill upload more later
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on April 28, 2009, 01:51:58 AM
Great Pics, Alfonse!! <thumbup> <thumbup>
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: phantomphan1974 on April 28, 2009, 09:00:24 AM
Quote from: rander on April 28, 2009, 01:51:58 AM
Great Pics, Alfonse!! <thumbup> <thumbup>
Ditto.

Rander, what happen to the CH-53?  It looked like a car ran into it last time I went about 3-6 months ago.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on April 28, 2009, 06:23:22 PM
Quote from: phantomphan1974 on April 28, 2009, 09:00:24 AM
Ditto.

Rander, what happen to the CH-53?  It looked like a car ran into it last time I went about 3-6 months ago.

Is that the damage that was on the left side near the Left Main Landing Gear. If there is damage on the right side also? I don't know about that. The left side dmage has been there a while, I don,t believe they have any plans to fix it. The MC has promised the museum a CH-53E aircraft, They don't have a delivery date yet.

For Alfonse: the Flying Leatherneck hanger storage yard currently has a F-4S, An A-4 not sure what model, and another F-8 Crusader and the AV-8C Harrier is there still in the blue and white NASA paint. The F-4, A-4 and the F-8 have been canablized for parts for the aircraft on display.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: Midnight Mover on April 28, 2009, 08:21:02 PM
Quote from: g0_command0 on April 27, 2009, 10:30:51 PM
Some pics i took last friday!

all pics are copy right alfonse vu 2009!

ok now im lazy..ill upload more later

Cool 8)
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: g0_command0 on April 28, 2009, 10:42:54 PM
some more
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Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: phantomphan1974 on April 29, 2009, 04:37:31 AM
See damage bu red stands.  Looks like they might be working in it or ripped off that dented part.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on April 30, 2009, 05:32:02 PM
Quote from: phantomphan1974 on April 29, 2009, 04:37:31 AM
See damage bu red stands.  Looks like they might be working in it or ripped off that dented part.

Yes thats where the damage was. Looks like they're getting around to fixing it.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: kick Z tail out on July 28, 2009, 07:26:15 AM
Quote from: aero-engineer on October 20, 2008, 09:12:10 PM
I hate to see them repaint that AV-8C from the NASA test colors.

Oh well.
I'm kinda agreed with Kevin on that. It's a rare beast as is in the NASA colors. But I suppose the Leatherneck museum was given that plane for their own purposes, so I can't blame them for wanting to use it the way they wanted it.

But still... how many friggin Harriers were painted in USMC colors??? Do they need a C model that badly?
Quote from: g0_command0 on April 27, 2009, 10:30:51 PM
Some pics i took last friday!
Wow, sick font on that aggressor Marine Hornet!


I'm into things like that I guess. Sick fonts.  :-[

<laughing>
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: billmccarroll on December 22, 2009, 06:24:10 PM
A neglected airplane (C-47, I think) sitting with two other vintage aircraft in a park at Miramar Naval Air Station. My goal with this photo was to give this old jewel some life by creating an illusion of flight. I didn't want to render any ground reference so that nothing gets in the way of envisioning this old beauty in the air. The sky had remnants of storm clouds after passage of a cold front and the sun helped as it shone through the clouds. The title fits, I'm sure this aircraft has memories of the past to give up...but for now, she's flying in all her glory just one more time.
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Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: NikonGuy on December 22, 2009, 06:27:40 PM
Thats a pretty cool shot there, Bill, the colors are great.    ;)
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: Midnight Mover on December 22, 2009, 06:37:27 PM
Quote from: billmccarroll on December 22, 2009, 06:24:10 PM
A neglected airplane (C-47, I think) sitting with two other vintage aircraft in a park at Miramar Naval Air Station. My goal with this photo was to give this old jewel some life by creating an illusion of flight. I didn't want to render any ground reference so that nothing gets in the way of envisioning this old beauty in the air. The sky had remnants of storm clouds after passage of a cold front and the sun helped as it shone through the clouds. The title fits, I'm sure this aircraft has memories of the past to give up...but for now, she's flying in all her glory just one more time.

Great shot. On friday last year they parked me over there. They have some cool stuff :D
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: billmccarroll on December 22, 2009, 07:09:00 PM
Thanks for the comments.  I've wanted to photograph those airplanes for a while now but they're not in great shape so never made it a priority.  But today I was at the base exchange for Christmas shopping and wandered over to the park with my camera not really expecting to get anything special.  But the sun was lined up nicely for this shot and I thought I could shoot it with no ground perspective to give the feeling of flight.  I'm glad it came out so nicely.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on December 23, 2009, 12:51:20 AM
I quired at the Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum several months ago and it seems that the museum IS NOT in any hurry to do any restoratiton work on the C-117 (because of the taller tail) ( The Iwakuni bird) the C-54 (R-4D)or the C-119 Flying Boxcar. So (Sadly) just lettting them sit and rust is the option they took. 
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: Realbigtaco on January 10, 2010, 12:57:08 PM
Finally made it out to the FLM, and it was a great little museum.  The group has plans to build a bigger museum in the future, and if they do and are able to refurbish some of the planes this could be one of the best museums on the west coast.  Here are a couple i got
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on January 10, 2010, 03:25:57 PM
I see according to Chris's photos that the damage to the left side of the CH-53 has been fixed and the AV-8C has been painted.

Cool Pics, Chris!!!!
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: Realbigtaco on January 10, 2010, 09:07:59 PM
Quote from: rander on January 10, 2010, 03:25:57 PM
I see according to Chris's photos that the damage to the left side of the CH-53 has been fixed and the AV-8C has been painted.

Cool Pics, Chris!!!!

I noticed that on another picture, what happened to the CH-53?
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on January 11, 2010, 01:04:08 AM
Not real sure how the damage got there, The CH-53A was a gate guard at the old MCAS Tustin, the damage was either there when it became a gate guard or it happened when the  helo was moved to Miramar. Whats really a shame is the F.L.A.M. has a C-117, a C-54, and a C-119 on base that are just being neglected and the Museum does not seem to have any interest in preserveing these aircraft.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: Realbigtaco on January 11, 2010, 06:48:59 AM
Quote from: rander on January 11, 2010, 01:04:08 AM
Not real sure how the damage got there, The CH-53A was a gate guard at the old MCAS Tustin, the damage was either there when it became a gate guard or it happened when the  helo was moved to Miramar. Whats really a shame is the F.L.A.M. has a C-117, a C-54, and a C-119 on base that are just being neglected and the Museum does not seem to have any interest in preserving these aircraft.
yeah i do like those birds inside.  SO maybe you know this since you say you have some contacts there, but what is their time-line, and maybe likelihood for that matter, that they will actually get that nice museum building built.  I really keep thinking that if that actually goes through that it could be one of the best West Coast museums, but something in the back of my mind thinks it will either take decades...or not at all.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on January 11, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
I haven't talked ith LTCOL Johnson USMC Ret. in some time now but my last conversation was early last  summer. THey don't have the $ 20-25million they need for the new building. They wern't even trying to seek donations for it. Being a Midway volunteer, I offered suggestions That they could do with the space they have available to try and land some big corporate or private sponsors. I don' t think any of that is happening.
I have done volunteer work for the F.L.A.M. I nearly single handedly drove in  nearly a thousand screws that were missing from the adversary hornet.I put all these screws in with screws I got from work at FRCSW and went over there on a couple of weekends and drove them all in myself. 
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: Realbigtaco on January 11, 2010, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: rander on January 11, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
I haven't talked ith LTCOL Johnson USMC Ret. in some time now but my last conversation was early last  summer. THey don't have the $ 20-25million they need for the new building. They wern't even trying to seek donations for it. Being a Midway volunteer, I offered suggestions That they could do with the space they have available to try and land some big corporate or private sponsors. I don' t think any of that is happening.
I have done volunteer work for the F.L.A.M. I nearly single handedly drove in  nearly a thousand screws that were missing from the adversary hornet.I put all these screws in with screws I got from work at FRCSW and went over there on a couple of weekends and drove them all in myself. 
I kind of figured that they would have funding issues.

That's my next big thing i want to do is to donate my time to do restoration work on aircraft.  Little hard when i got a couple little ones at home.

Thanks for all the info Rander.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on January 12, 2010, 12:55:07 AM
Quote from: Realbigtaco on January 11, 2010, 09:06:15 PM
I kind of figured that they would have funding issues.

That's my next big thing i want to do is to donate my time to do restoration work on aircraft.  Little hard when i got a couple little ones at home.

Thanks for all the info Rander.

I know, Chris. I'd like to spend more time volunteering at the Midway. I'm currently inactive there as I'm working 6 days a week at NI and trying to squeeze in a couple hours a week here and there to take pics, and health isssues I have and affairs with my mom (shes 92), I just have little time for Volunteering. Seems as you get older life just get so much more complicated.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: phantomphan1974 on January 12, 2010, 04:31:03 AM
Quote from: rander on January 12, 2010, 12:55:07 AM
I know, Chris. I'd like to spend more time volunteering at the Midway. I'm currently inactive there as I'm working 6 days a week at NI and trying to squeeze in a couple hours a week here and there to take pics, and health isssues I have and affairs with my mom (shes 92), I just have little time for Volunteering. Seems as you get older life just get so much more complicated.
I hear you on that and agree, either yourself or your family (my dad health issues for me)
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: raptorf22 on December 29, 2011, 09:57:31 PM
Leatherneck museum yesterday the bronco has a new desert camo paint job looks cool
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: 16Right on December 30, 2011, 10:06:40 AM
Great shots.

I'll have to check out the museum the next time I'm down that way.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on November 11, 2012, 01:26:36 PM
Hi All, Happy Veterans Day. Normally I go to the Midway Museuum on Veterans Day. A postponed NCAA Basketball game, and all the extra people that I would have to deal with,  I went to The Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum insted.

The aircraft in the pictures below has one  teny tiny little flaw in it. The flaw was there the day McDonnel Douglas rolled it out and the Marines accepted it that way. So for historical reasons, when the museum restored The aircraft, the flaw was left like it  was. This restoration is Considered Authentic.  If you see the flaw, E-mail your Answer to rander159002@gmail.com. There is NO Prize for correct answers. You are just very observant

Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on November 11, 2012, 09:33:45 PM
I visited this museum today as it was Veterans Day.


The AV-8C in its new colors.   

A F-4 Phantom rpainted for the Miramar Aifr Show.

CH-46 BUNO 154803A documented war hero aircraft.

The write up about CH-46 Buno1458803. This Helo had a major role in the evacuation of Saigon in 1975.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on November 12, 2012, 08:33:22 AM
This A-4M Skyhawk Buno160264, Tail End Charlie ws originally painted by McDonnel Douglas with one teny tiny little flaw.  Reciently The Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum restored this aircraft. The museum repainted the aircraft exactly as McDonnell Douglas did when the aircraft was rolled out. For Historical Accuracy, the flaw is still there. This restoration is considered Authentic.   Any one see it?  E-mail your answer to   rander159002@gmail.com. There is NO Prize for correct answers. Except that you are very observant.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: phantomphan1974 on November 14, 2012, 09:09:59 AM
I can't find it, and my only guess is that it has to do with country representation.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: Aguillard on November 14, 2012, 06:37:51 PM
Quote from: rander on November 11, 2012, 09:33:45 PM
I visited this museum today as it was Veterans Day.


The AV-8C in its new colors.   

A F-4 Phantom rpainted for the Miramar Aifr Show.

CH-46 BUNO 154803A documented war hero aircraft.

The write up about CH-46 Buno1458803. This Helo had a major role in the evacuation of Saigon in 1975.


Actually the F4 wasn't done for the show. It was done bexause it was looking old and ragged, and when the Curatoe saw it from across the street, he was embarresed at how bad it looked.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on November 14, 2012, 09:21:17 PM
For those scratching your heads, look at the Flag of Argentina. In the center of the white is supposed to be "Sun Of May" That is what McDonnell Douglas left out of the original painting of this aircraft. For Historical Accuracy, The museum left the "Sun of May" off as well.

Sun of May

The sun, called the Sun of May, is a replica of an engraving on the first Argentine coin, approved in 1813, whose value was eight escudos (one Spanish dollar). It has 16 straight and 16 waved sunbeams.

In 1978 the sun color was specified to be golden yellow (amarillo oro), to have an inner diameter of 10 cm, and an outer diameter of 25 cm (the diameter of the sun equals 5/6 the height of the white stripe. The sun's face is 2/5 of its height). It features 32 rays, 16 undulated and 16 straight, in alternation and from 1978 it must be embroidered in the "Official Flag Ceremony".


According to Wikipedia, the last A-4 series aircraft was produced in 1979 so the "Sun of May" should have been there in 1979.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: phantomphan1974 on November 15, 2012, 06:18:32 AM
Oh yeah.  They had one of the moments when they did the flags.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: phantomphan1974 on November 15, 2012, 08:25:15 AM
Merged the NAS Miramar and Leatherneck thread since the same thing.  If you have old NAS MIramar photos there is a probably a thread already if not creat one... :D
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: rander on November 15, 2012, 08:40:48 AM
Quote from: rander on January 11, 2010, 01:04:08 AM
Not real sure how the damage got there, The CH-53A was a gate guard at the old MCAS Tustin, the damage was either there when it became a gate guard or it happened when the  helo was moved to Miramar. Whats really a shame is the F.L.A.M. has a C-117, a C-54, and a C-119 on base that are just being neglected and the Museum does not seem to have any interest in preserveing these aircraft.

In response to my own post above (1) the money needed to do the work (2) Personnel Required, there are only a few volunteers(*), some who come in 5 days a week to maintain the aircraft you see displayed. (3) Work Stands and other things needed  to safely work above the ground.

(*) unlike the Midway Museum where there are many volunteers.
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: phantomphan1974 on November 15, 2012, 08:42:37 AM
Quote from: rander on November 15, 2012, 08:40:48 AM
In response to my own post above (1) the money needed to do the work (2) Personnel Required, there are only a few volunteers(*), some who come in 5 days a week to maintain the aircraft you see displayed. (3) Work Stands and other things needed  to safely work above the ground.

(*) unlike the Midway Museum where there are many volunteers.

:'(
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: raptorf22 on March 11, 2014, 12:20:27 AM
A few  pics from a couple of weeks ago
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: raptorf22 on March 11, 2014, 12:22:22 AM
A few more
Title: Re: Flying Leatherneck Aviation Museum
Post by: raptorf22 on October 15, 2015, 01:34:15 AM
Flying Leathernecks new additions