Bush In Town or Any VPs?

[Josh]

Just saw two CH-53s, with two seakings in trail when we were at TGI Friday's. Even watched a Cessna do like a 50deg bank and hall ass out of the way 30 secs before. Looked like they were coming from Los Alamitos or TOA. But I can't find any Presidential TFRs for Cali. No camera, like usual.

[NikonGuy]

now I always have my camera in my car all the time lol. 

[phantomphan1974]

 

[phantomphan1974]

 

[Josh]

Ahha good work.

[phantomphan1974]

These were taken at LAX, there were heading south.  

[phantomphan1974]

Thanks!  Keith's T-6 buddie said they landed at TOA for a shot bit I guess.

[Josh]

Thanks!  Keith's T-6 buddie said they landed at TOA for a shot bit I guess.

Well, that sucks man, woulda love to had been there. It kinda looked like they lifted from toa, but it was hard to tell for sure.

[phantomphan1974]

Well, that sucks man, woulda love to had been there. It kinda looked like they lifted from toa, but it was hard to tell for sure.

I drove by about 7:30 and nothing there.

[phantomphan1974]

Per Daily Breeze tomorrow.  Of course no ETA.  Who's going?
http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_8101430

[Josh]

Per Daily Breeze tomorrow.  Of course no ETA.  Who's going?
http://www.dailybreeze.com/ci_8101430

I would like to try, but I dunno... Them snipers ain't very friendly...

Heres the TFR filed this morning. Listing the Effective time at 10:20 a.m. until 4:05 p.m. local Wednesday, Jan. 30.

FDC 8/2542 ZLA PART 1 OF 5 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA, JANUARY 30, 2008 LOCAL. PURSUANT TO 49 USC 40103(B), THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) CLASSIFIES THE AIRSPACE DEFINED IN THIS NOTAM AS NATIONAL DEFENSE AIRSPACE. ANY PERSON WHO KNOWINGLY OR WILLFULLY VIOLATES THE RULES CONCERNING OPERATIONS IN THIS AIRSPACE MAY BE SUBJECT TO CERTAIN CRIMINAL PENALTIES UNDER 49 USC 46307. PILOTS WHO DO NOT ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING PROCEDURES MAY BE INTERCEPTED, AND MAY BE DETAINED AND INTERVIEWED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT/SECURITY PERSONNEL. PURSUANT TO TITLE 14, SECTION 91.141 OF THE CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS, AIRCRAFT FLIGHT OPERATIONS ARE PROHIBITED WITHIN A 30 NMR OF 335737N/1182346W OR THE LAX033002.4 UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180 EFFECTIVE 0801301820 UTC (1020 LOCAL 01/30/08) UNTIL 0801310005 UTC (1605 LOCAL 01/30/08). WITHIN A 10 NMR OF 335639N/1182430W OR THE LAX046001.4 UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180 EFFECTIVE 0801301830 UTC (1030 LOCAL 01/30/08) UNTIL 0801301925 UTC (1125 LOCAL 01/30/08). END PART 1 OF 5 FDC 8/2542 ZLA PART 2 OF 5 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS WITHIN A 10 NMR OF 334837N/1182000W OR THE LAX131008.9 UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180 EFFECTIVE 0801301845 UTC (1045 LOCAL 01/30/08) UNTIL 0801302115 UTC (1315 LOCAL 01/30/08). WITHIN A 10 NMR OF 340420N/1182647W OR THE SMO353003.7 UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180 EFFECTIVE 0801302040 UTC (1240 LOCAL 01/30/08) UNTIL 0801302345 UTC (1545 LOCAL 01/30/08). WITHIN A 10 NMR OF 335639N/1182430W OR THE LAX046001.4 UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180 EFFECTIVE 0801302300 UTC (1500 LOCAL 01/30/08) UNTIL 0801310005 UTC (1605 LOCAL 01/30/08). EXCEPT AS SPECIFIED BELOW AND/OR UNLESS AUTHORIZED BY THE AIR TRAFFIC SECURITY COORDINATOR VIA THE DOMESTIC EVENTS NETWORK (DEN): A. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS WITHIN A 10 NMR AREA END PART 2 OF 5 FDC 8/2542 ZLA PART 3 OF 5 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS LISTED ABOVE ARE PROHIBITED EXCEPT FOR: 1. APPROVED LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY AIRCRAFT DIRECTLY SUPPORTING THE UNITED STATES SECRET SERVICE (USSS) AND THE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, APPROVED EMERGENCY MEDICAL FLIGHTS, AND REGULARLY SCHEDULED COMMERCIAL PASSENGER AND ALL-CARGO CARRIERS OPERATING UNDER ONE OF THE FOLLOWING TSA-APPROVED STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAMS/PROCEDURES: AIRCRAFT OPERATOR STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (AOSSP), DOMESTIC SECURITY INTEGRATION PROGRAM (DSIP), TWELVE FIVE STANDARD SECURITY PROGRAM (TFSSP) ALL CARGO, OR ALL-CARGO INTERNATIONAL SECURITY PROCEDURE (ACISP) AND ARE ARRIVING INTO AND/OR DEPARTING FROM 14 CFR PART 139 AIRPORTS. 2. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN THE TFR, ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT (MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) OPERATIONS MUST COORDINATE IN ADVANCE WITH THE USSS AT 253-982-4310 TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS. END PART 3 OF 5 FDC 8/2542 ZLA PART 4 OF 5 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS B. WITHIN THE AIRSPACE BETWEEN 10 NMR AND 30 NMR LISTED ABOVE: 1. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR MUST BE ON AN ACTIVE IFR OR VFR FLIGHT PLAN WITH A DISCRETE CODE ASSIGNED BY AN AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL (ATC) FACILITY. AIRCRAFT MUST BE SQUAWKING THE DISCRETE CODE PRIOR TO DEPARTURE AND AT ALL TIMES WHILE IN THE TFR. 2. ALL AIRCRAFT ENTERING OR EXITING THE 30 NMR TFR MUST REMAIN IN TWO-WAY RADIO COMMUNICATIONS WITH ATC. 3. ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING WITHIN THE 10 TO 30 NMR TFR AND OPERATING AT ALTITUDES OF UP TO BUT NOT INCLUDING FL180 ARE LIMITED TO AIRCRAFT ARRIVING OR DEPARTING LOCAL AIRFIELDS AND ATC MAY AUTHORIZE TRANSIT OPERATIONS. AIRCRAFT MAY NOT LOITER. 4. FLIGHT TRAINING, PRACTICE INSTRUMENT APPROACHES, AEROBATIC FLIGHT, GLIDER OPERATIONS, PARACHUTE OPERATIONS, ULTRALIGHT, HANG GLIDING, BALLOON OPERATIONS, AGRICULTURE/CROP DUSTING, END PART 4 OF 5 FDC 8/2542 ZLA PART 5 OF 5 FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS ANIMAL POPULATION CONTROL FLIGHT OPERATIONS, BANNER TOWING OPERATIONS, MODEL AIRCRAFT OPERATIONS, MODEL ROCKETRY, AND UNMANNED AERIAL SYSTEMS (UAS) ARE NOT AUTHORIZED. 5. ALL USSS CLEARED AIRCRAFT OPERATORS BASED IN THE AREA SHOULD NOTIFY THE USSS PRIOR TO THEIR DEPARTURE. 6. FOR OPERATIONS WITHIN THE TFR, ALL EMERGENCY/LIFE SAVING FLIGHT (MEDICAL/LAW ENFORCEMENT/FIREFIGHTING) OPERATIONS MUST COORDINATE IN ADVANCE WITH THE USSS AT 253-982-4310 TO AVOID POTENTIAL DELAYS. C. FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATORS CHECK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPERATIONS WITHIN THIS REGION. END PART 5 OF 5

[Josh]

[logged]

Pres Bush will be at Robinson Heli at the Torrance Airport tomorrow.
Based on the NOTAM timing, he is commuting via Helo.

The tight NOTAMS are for:

LAX:
10:30 a.m. until 11:25 a.m. local Wednesday, January 30
3:00 p.m. until 4:05 p.m. local Wednesday, January 30
Torrance:
10:45 a.m. until 1:15 p.m. local Wednesday, January 30


Westside Towers Heliport (West L.A.)

12:40 p.m. until 3:45 p.m. local Wednesday, January 30

[/logged]

That narrows the time down a bit.

[phantomphan1974]

Anyone going?  Guess I won't get a shot unless he takes off early.  Guess he would fly back to Santa Monica right?

[phantomphan1974]

Did not realize the Westside Towers Heliport  is a building.

[NikonGuy]

Santa Monica Airport!? Oh man if he does come here I will be there. and btw I was at the UCLA Campus today and saw 2 helicopters "Marine 1" type fly over and real low.